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Joe Rogan

Podcaster and comedian whose views on the deep state have evolved from affirming "this thing he was saying about the deep state is 100% real" to questioning whether career institutions might also be necessary.

FieldDetails
Full NameJoseph James Rogan
RolePodcaster / Comedian / UFC Commentator
PlatformThe Joe Rogan Experience (Spotify), UFC commentary, stand-up comedy
Notable WorksThe Joe Rogan Experience (JRE) — the world's most popular podcast, various stand-up specials

Their Deep State Definition​

Joe Rogan's deep state perspective is notable for its evolution and internal tensions. As the host of the world's most popular podcast, his views have reached tens of millions and have shifted over time:

Early position (pre-2020): Rogan endorsed the deep state concept, stating about Trump's claims: "this thing he was saying about the deep state is 100% real." He hosted numerous guests who detailed deep state operations and seemed broadly sympathetic to the thesis.

Evolved position (post-2020): Rogan began expressing more nuanced views, asking: "Do you know how f--ed we would be if we didn't have career politicians and career intelligence agencies?" This suggests an acknowledgment that while the deep state exists, dismantling it entirely might create worse problems.

His current framework includes:

  • Acknowledgment of reality — The deep state exists as a network of career government officials and intelligence operatives
  • Institutional complexity — Some degree of institutional continuity may be necessary and even beneficial
  • Platform for exploration — Rather than adopting a fixed position, Rogan uses his podcast to explore the topic through conversations with people across the spectrum
  • Anti-censorship — Regardless of his position on the deep state itself, Rogan strongly opposes censorship and information control

Key Quotes​

"This thing he was saying about the deep state is 100% real."

"Do you know how f--ed we would be if we didn't have career politicians and career intelligence agencies?"

"I think there's absolutely a deep state. The question is how much of it is malevolent and how much of it is just bureaucratic inertia."

"The scariest thing about the deep state is not that it exists, but that most people don't know it exists."

"I'm not a journalist. I'm a comedian who talks to interesting people. And a lot of those interesting people have told me the deep state is real."

Key Arguments & Evidence They Cite​

  • Edward Snowden's revelations (JRE #1368) demonstrated the scope of NSA surveillance beyond any democratic mandate
  • Alex Jones's predictions about surveillance and government overreach (JRE #911, #1255) proved more accurate than mainstream media reported
  • Intelligence community veterans who appear on the podcast confirm deep state operations exist
  • The suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story by media and intelligence officials before the 2020 election
  • COVID-19 origins debate demonstrated how the intelligence community and media coordinated to suppress legitimate scientific inquiry
  • Social media censorship of his own podcast episodes proved the existence of coordinated information control
  • The military-industrial complex's influence on foreign policy is evident in endless wars
  • Guests from across the political spectrum — left, right, and non-partisan — independently confirm deep state structures
  • His own experience being targeted for censorship and deplatforming pressure demonstrated institutional coordination
  • The revolving door between intelligence agencies, media, and tech companies is documented

Where They've Said It​

  • The Joe Rogan Experience — thousands of episodes, many touching on deep state topics (2009-present)
  • JRE #1368 — Edward Snowden interview (October 2019)
  • JRE #911 — Alex Jones interview (February 2017)
  • JRE #1255 — Alex Jones & Eddie Bravo interview (February 2019)
  • JRE #2173 — Jimmy Dore interview discussing intelligence community
  • JRE episodes with Tucker Carlson (#1999, #2138)
  • JRE episodes with Tulsi Gabbard, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and other political figures
  • JRE episodes with Mike Baker (former CIA) providing insider perspective
  • Stand-up comedy specials incorporating political commentary
  • Social media posts on X/Twitter and Instagram
  • Edward_Snowden — landmark JRE interview confirming deep state from inside
  • Jimmy_Dore — left-wing deep state critique on JRE
  • Alex_Jones — explosive deep state discussions on JRE that went viral
  • Jesse_Ventura — former governor sharing CIA encounters on JRE
  • Robert_F_Kennedy_Jr — regulatory deep state discussions on JRE
  • Jordan_Peterson — government-corporate collusion discussions on JRE
  • Kim_Iversen — independent journalist covering deep state on JRE

Other Coverage Worth Reading​

  • Dan Bongino: Former Secret Service agent and FBI Deputy Director who describes the deep state as a "vast, well-funded cabal...
  • The Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance: The Five Eyes (FVEY) is an intelligence-sharing alliance comprising the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and...
  • Deep Politics — Peter Dale Scott's Framework: Peter Dale Scott's academic framework for understanding how covert arrangements, suppressed connections, and unacknowledged power structures shape major...
  • Tulsi Gabbard: Former congresswoman, combat veteran, and Director of National Intelligence who describes the deep state not as a conspiracy...

Sources​

  • The Joe Rogan Experience, various episodes, 2009-present (Spotify).
  • JRE #1368 with Edward Snowden, October 2019.
  • JRE #911 with Alex Jones, February 2017.
  • JRE #1255 with Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo, February 2019.
  • JRE #2173 with Jimmy Dore.
  • JRE episodes with Tucker Carlson (#1999, #2138).

This information was compiled by Claude AI research.